Rep. Zoe Lofgren on “Face the Nation”

The next is a transcript of an interview with Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat and member of the Home Choose Committee investigating Jan. 6, that aired Sunday, June 19, 2022, on “Face the Nation.”

MARGARET BRENNAN: We now need to go to Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren of California. She is in San Jose. Good morning to you. You are one of many investigators on this Choose Committee, and I believe some of the highly effective moments was when the retired conservative choose Choose Luttig stated that he sees a transparent and current hazard immediately. He stated there could possibly be additional makes an attempt to subvert American democracy in 2024. What precisely is the menace you see?

REPRESENTATIVE ZOE LOFGREN: Properly, I believe Choose Luttig stated it very nicely. And by the way in which, he’s a really conservative man as soon as thought-about by Republicans for the Supreme Courtroom. I believe his concern and I share it’s that the previous president is continuous on his marketing campaign to undercut confidence within the election system. They’re putting in a loyalist who say that the election was stolen and states have been going to rely the votes. They clearly tried to get the Vice President to throw the precise votes out and exchange electors with the dropping candidate. And it appears like that is within the works for the subsequent election as nicely. It is a terrific concern.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So to be clear, there are about 100 Republican candidates for workplace proper now who’re repeating that they’re election deniers they’re repeating a few of what President Trump nonetheless claims. No less than 5 of them have gained their primaries. Have you ever discovered any direct hyperlinks between any of these candidates and the grift that you’ve been monitoring?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, we’ll launch extra data. I’ve obtained the workers engaged on it proper now. Clearly the hearings are a few hours every and you’ll’t lay out all the data that is been compiled. So I do know there’s been substantial curiosity in the- the massive rip off and we’ll present extra data to the general public quickly.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You are saying establishing direct hyperlinks between these people standing for election to workplace now and the scheme you are laying out?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Not essentially. We are going to lay out what now we have.


CZECH REP. LOFGREN: And other people can take a look at it. I do not need to simply pop off irresponsibly right here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Your colleagues on the committee, Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger stated on one other community this morning that he simply obtained a dying menace in opposition to him, his spouse, and his five-month–


MARGARET BRENNAN: –old little one for the work he is doing.


MARGARET BRENNAN: He stated there may be violence sooner or later. Do you agree that you’ve a concern of political violence and have you ever obtained threats?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, I do not need to go into the threads I’ve obtained. I believe it simply encourages extra of them. Nevertheless it’s very regarding that Adam and his spouse and his little child have been threatened. I noticed the menace. It was a written menace. We noticed that Republican Congressman, a really conservative consultant, Crenshaw was roughed up over the weekend at a Republican assembly, as a result of he was not conservative sufficient and I believe that is what the previous president has unleashed right here. You already know, when he despatched out the tweet, attacking his vp, he already knew that the violence was underway. The one conclusion you can–


CZECH REP. LOFGREN: –reach is that he supposed to- to speed up that violence in opposition to the previous vp. So, we’re in a really tough time in America proper now. And all of us of us elected officers, but additionally simply Individuals and their neighbors want to face up for the rule of regulation. And in opposition to political violence. It isn’t what America is about.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-Hmm. Properly, for the busy American individuals who could not have been watching the hearings as carefully as we have been, precisely what’s the endgame right here? Are you laying out a roadmap for the Division of Justice to finally attempt to prosecute the previous president?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: We’re doing what we have been requested to do when the committee was shaped, which is to seek out the reality, lay it out, and we may also be making legislative suggestions. For instance, the Electoral Rely Act was violated, Dr. Eastman admitted as a lot, however we expect we will tighten that up so it’s much less inclined to abuse. We’re working at, particularly Liz Cheney and I, are engaged on that. The Division of Justice has to make its personal determination. We’re laying out details, they’ll see it, however I am positive they’ve entry to different data as a result of they have grand juries assembly with numerous defendants. We’re going to be useful to them by way of particular data that they need from the- our personal investigations, however they got- it isn’t the function of Congress to determine who will get prosecuted.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Properly, plenty of your committee members your fellow committee members have criticized Lawyer Basic Garland for not transferring quicker. So, they do need to see some sort of motion right here. And there was this letter–

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly that was for–

MARGARET BRENNAN: –from the Justice Division asking for transcripts and saying that your committee’s failure to right away hand them over was complicating their investigation. Precisely what’s going on right here?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, that was form of- we have been stunned by that, frankly. And we are going to have interaction. We’re not going to be an impediment to the Division of Justice prosecution of people. We’re in the course of placing these hearings collectively. The workers is working, I imply, extremely onerous together with the members of Congress the place we are going to get, you realize, explicit data that they want over to them in an orderly manner. Actually, by- by the start of subsequent month.

MARGARET BRENNAN: By the start of subsequent month. Within the subsequent week, you have got plenty of Republican officers from state native governments coming together with Arizona Home Speaker Rusty Bowers, who stated he had been pressured by the President, the previous president’s legal professional Rudy Giuliani and by the previous president himself to retroactively change Arizona regulation to decide on a special slate of presidential electors. He additionally has stated he obtained emails from Ginni Thomas to reverse Trump’s loss and she or he is the spouse in fact of sitting Supreme Courtroom Justice Clarence Thomas, will you ask Bowers about that hyperlink to Thomas?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, I am not going to step on the committee’s traces for the listening to. However clearly, as you realize, we have invited Ginni Thomas to come back in and go to with the committee, reply our questions, and we have truly obtained extra data after we obtained proof from the Eastman emails which have now been ordered launched by Choose Carter in California. And so now we have questions for her and we could have questions for him as nicely.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Will Ginni Thomas seem or do you must subpoena her? Will her husband seem?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, we have requested her to indicate up. She- it was a personal letter, she determined to reveal it, which is her proper to do. And he or she stated publicly that she appears ahead to coming in and speaking to us. So I take her at her phrase that she intends to come back in and we look ahead to speaking to her.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congresswoman Lofgren, thanks on your time, and we’ll be watching. Face the Nation will probably be again in a minute. Stick with us.

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